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Email overload? Try Priority Inbox
From the blog post:
http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/email-overload-try-priority-inbox.html
"Gmail has always been pretty good at filtering junk mail into the “spam” folder. But today, in addition to spam, people get a lot of mail that isn't outright junk but isn't very important—bologna, or “bacn.” So we've evolved Gmail's filter to address this problem...Expand this post »
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Rob Gordon - @DeWitt Clinton I use the "multiple inbox" feature of gmail. Would I be advised to disable that, and use this instead, or can it be used in conjunction with multiple inboxes?Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Josh Wills - @Sean Long Gmail webapp FTW, dude.
@Rob Gordon I was also a long-time multiple inbox user, but I switched over wholesale to priority inbox. It's really that good.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
@Rob Gordon I was also a long-time multiple inbox user, but I switched over wholesale to priority inbox. It's really that good.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @Sean Long I believe that all messages in the Priority Inbox are labeled "Important" automatically, so your mobile Gmail app on Android, or even an IMAP client, should be able to view them as soon as it is enabled for your account.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Frank Spychalski - @Rob: use one of the multiple inboxes with 'is:important'Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Rob Gordon - @Frank Spychalski Cool - thank you, was wondering if something like that would be available. Not sure it will work thought because I still don't think it can be enabled on my account. Maybe the beta tester accounts are being penalized again.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Frank Spychalski - I don't see priority inbox yet either on my private account... Don't worry, it will show up soon.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
David Neufer - Can Priority Inbox analyse my past use to work or will it have to start learning from scratch?Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Kathi [d/b/a fuzzyscorpio] - the intro video is awesome, thanks for including that link.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Chuck Kahn - Does this mean I have to mark spam twice -- once as not important and once as spam?Sep 5DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeHere is the list of the Chrome extensions I'm currently running:
AdBlock - Version: 2.1.4
AdBlock for Chrome! Blocks ads all over the web. Rated 4.5 out of 5 stars by our users!
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom
Awesome Screenshot: Capture & Annotate - Version: 2.3.1
Capture the whole page or any portion, annotate it with rectangles, circles, arrows,...Expand this post »
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Brett Cannon - Docs PDF/PowerPoint Viewer (by Google)
Display PDFs right in the page; still prefer it over Chrome's dev channel native PDF viewer.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/nnbmlagghjjcbdhgmkedmbmedengocbn
Google Calendar Checker (by Google)
Really like the badge telling me how long until my next meeting.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ookhcbgokankfmjafalglpofmolfopek
Google Quick Scroll
Makes it easy to jump around a page after performing a search.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/okanipcmceoeemlbjnmnbdibhgpbllgc
Google Reader: Note in Reader (Unofficial)
The Google Reader bookmarklet as an extension.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ndpfjemcbhgcgccfmiiaaanhldchcgdb
Google Share Button
For Buzz and Instapaper sharing.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/idaeealfhcijmeigljaopafdapgijdcb
Speed Tracer (by Google)
Invaluable when deducing performance issues in your website.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ognampngfcbddbfemdapefohjiobgbdl
Window Resizer
Really helpful when seeing how your page will look on mobile phones.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/kkelicaakdanhinjdeammmilcgefonfh
Oplop (disclaimer: it's my extension, but I am an avid user =)
Helps me manage all of those darn passwords online by trading them in for a single master password and account nicknames that I can actually remember.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/eifkoemjpnnbdmcogehkikakokoakonp Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Display PDFs right in the page; still prefer it over Chrome's dev channel native PDF viewer.
https://chro
Google Calendar Checker (by Google)
Really like the badge telling me how long until my next meeting.
https://chr
Google Quick Scroll
Makes it easy to jump around a page after performing a search.
https://chro
Google Reader: Note in Reader (Unofficial)
The Google Reader bookmarklet as an extension.
https://c
Google Share Button
For Buzz and Instapaper sharing.
https://chr
Speed Tracer (by Google)
Invaluable when deducing performance issues in your website.
https://chr
Window Resizer
Really helpful when seeing how your page will look on mobile phones.
https://chro
Oplop (disclaimer: it's my extension, but I am an avid user =)
Helps me manage all of those darn passwords online by trading them in for a single master password and account nicknames that I can actually remember.
https://ch
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DeWitt Clinton - Robert — having the benefit of inside knowledge about how Google works (and treats personally identifiable information), I have no problem with analytics, ads, and whatnot.
Before I joined the company I was a lot more paranoid, of course. But since being there I realized that my worries were (fortunately!) unfounded.
Everyone needs to make that choice for themselves, of course. I don't begrudge anyone for being careful!
The Google Privacy Center is an invaluable resource for understanding how Google thinks about data:
http://www.google.com/privacy.html
Everyone should take some time to read through that site. (And pressure other companies to post the same!)
(BTW, I think it rocks that we issued an official Analytics opt-out extension.)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Before I joined the company I was a lot more paranoid, of course. But since being there I realized that my worries were (fortunately!) unfounded.
Everyone needs to make that choice for themselves, of course. I don't begrudge anyone for being careful!
The Google Privacy Center is an invaluable resource for understanding how Google thinks about data:
http://www.g
Everyone should take some time to read through that site. (And pressure other companies to post the same!)
(BTW, I think it rocks that we issued an official Analytics opt-out extension.)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Michael Silverton - Feedly
Your magazine-like start page. A fast and stylish way to read and share the content of your favorite sites and services. Provides seamless integration with Google Reader, Twitter, Delicious, YouTube and Amazon.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ndhinffkekpekljifjkkkkkhopnjodja
Oh crap, now it's all downhill as a fave extensions buzz. Sorry, but Brett Cannon started it. ;-)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Your magazine-like start page. A fast and stylish way to read and share the content of your favorite sites and services. Provides seamless integration with Google Reader, Twitter, Delicious, YouTube and Amazon.
https://chro
Oh crap, now it's all downhill as a fave extensions buzz. Sorry, but Brett Cannon started it. ;-)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Michael Silverton I wanted a favorite extensions Buzz! Thanks! And thank you to Brett Cannon for kicking it off.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
T.A. Henry - @DeWitt Clinton
I'll always trust Google more than Mark "Zuckerpunch" and his all-seeing evil eye!
Just think of that logo on his company jacket.. creepy.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I'll always trust Google more than Mark "Zuckerpunch" and his all-seeing evil eye!
Just think of that logo on his company jacket.. creepy.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Andriy Burkov - DeWitt, how do you feel when you use AdBlock? For me it's like if an employee of Exxon was driving an electric car :-)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
T.A. Henry - http://goo.gl/6Oib - Chrowety is pretty good for twitter. You never have to goto twitter when you have it.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Andriy Burkov I run adblock because not every ad network is as good as Google's. : ( I have the "I like the text ads on Google search results; show me those." option checked, for example.
I really do like (some) ads — I just wish there was an easier way to separate the good ads from the porn/scam/crap ads.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I really do like (some) ads — I just wish there was an easier way to separate the good ads from the porn/scam/crap ads.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
T.A. Henry - @Andriy Burkov I love adblock but its mostly set for hotmail/yahoo ads. Yahoo yuck! Google Gmail ads I keep unblocked. Gotta keep the Google engine going.
Favorite Blogging Chrome Extensions:
http://goo.gl/pFF9 - Zemanta
http://goo.gl/greo - ScribeFire
http://goo.gl/OVVp - Drop.io
http://goo.gl/0fl8 - Google Dictionary (My Ultimate Favorite)
http://goo.gl/DJGN - PicnikSep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Favorite Blogging Chrome Extensions:
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http://goo.g
http://go
http://goo.g
http://goo
Andriy Burkov - DeWitt Clinton It's rare to see on the Web a person who says he likes ads. I like contextual ads, often find them useful. The only downside is that this new behavioral targeted ads can be too annoying. For example, I searched for "onebox" last month. Since then, I see OneBox ads almost everywhere. There has to be a button like "OK, I've already seen that, thanks!" :-)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Michael Silverton - <snark>If everyone would just give up all this open internet shenanigans and stay on Facebook all day every day, this would be solved with them there nifty Like and Dislike buttons.</snark> Stay on topic, monkey ears icon boy! Back to fave extensions!Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Andriy Burkov - Michael Silverton OK, mines are Chrome Notepad (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ffbhefmlcoihbjcmibbfkocmnaiacinp ), Buzz Plus (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/nejepecnjckgpaonipnbkmochnhhgkbg ) and Chrome SEO (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/oangcciaeihlfmhppegpdceadpfaoclj )Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Andrex ★ - I practically live in Google Reader so I need Google Reader Checker. It's not by Google, the official one opens a popup instead of opening the main site in a tab like Gmail Checker (seriously Google, streamline the UX between your extensions!)
Mine basically boil down to:
- Chromed Bird
- Google Reader Checker (not by Google)
- Gmail Checker (by Google)
- Google Calendar Checker (not by Google) This one grays out a lot. =/
- RSS Subscription
- Google Docs PDF/Powerpoint Viewer
- AdBlock
- Send Using Gmail (no Button)
And a couple other miscellaneous ones...Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Mine basically boil down to:
- Chromed Bird
- Google Reader Checker (not by Google)
- Gmail Checker (by Google)
- Google Calendar Checker (not by Google) This one grays out a lot. =/
- RSS Subscription
- Google Docs PDF/Powerpoint Viewer
- AdBlock
- Send Using Gmail (no Button)
And a couple other miscellaneous ones...Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Sean Long - DeWitt Clinton Thanks for this list! The Dictionary and Awesome Screenshot are very useful. Not to mention I totally missed the ability of Chrome to sync extensions across machines.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Randall Wald - Let me see, aside from the ones already mentioned my favorite extensions are:
Chrome Keyconfig: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/okneonigbfnolfkmfgjmaeniipdjkgkl
Lets you create custom keyboard shortcuts for scrolling, tab management, etc.
One Number:https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfkohgkpafhkpdcnfadadcibfboapggi
All-in-one Google service update checker which tells you how many new items you have at Google Reader, Gmail, Google Voice, and Google Wave.
Proxy Switchy!: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/caehdcpeofiiigpdhbabniblemipncjj
Lets you easily change between different proxy settings; as an added bonus, it uses a built-in plugin to handle the actual proxy work, so it's OS-independent (which is nice if, like me, you're on a bare-bones Linux install where the default Gnome proxy management package isn't installed).
TeX The World for Chromium: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/mbfninnbhfepghkkcgdnmfmhhbjmhggn
Replaces any LaTeX code found between [; and ;] tags with a rendered picture of that equation. Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Chrome Keyconfig: https://chrome.googl
Let
One Number:https://chrom
All-in-one Google service update checker which tells you how many new items you have at Google Reader, Gmail, Google Voice, and Google Wave.
Proxy Switchy!: https://chrome.googl
Let
TeX The World for Chromium: https://chrome.googl
Rep
Colin Wernham - @DeWitt Clinton: AdBlock...Naughty, naughty, biting the hand that feeds you!Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Eric Mill - android2cloud is pretty awesome, it's basically "phone to chrome": https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/hkelgkihphkegiaagbcgglfidabmgkgp Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeUh-oh. Here comes the urlapocalypse.
From: Twitter
To: dewitt
Subject: Update: Twitter Apps and You
Date: Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:20 PM
Hi @dewitt,
Over the coming weeks, we will be making two important updates that will impact how you interact with Twitter applications. We are sending this notice to all Twitter users to make sure you are aware of these changes.
[...]
Update 2: t.co URL...Expand this post »
Sean MacDhai - twitter does not work for me anymore. I keep getting a message that i am over my limit, when i am not even accessing the tool. when i go to the web, i get a fail whale or a robot missing the arm. Twitter to me has become that girlfriend or boyfriend who is pretty, but stupid and annoying and difficult to deal with. I would rather have someone with a personality. ;]
i gotta blog that! hahaSep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Jesse Stay - Yeah, I hate short URLs. If they just didn't count the URLs towards your limit this wouldn't be a problem in the first place. Let us see our URLs!Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Sean MacDhai - yah. it feels like "lets fck over all the people that made us so relevant". ug.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Lauren Weinstein - Twitter wants to be able to log every click on every link in every Tweet. See: http://www.google.com/buzz/lauren4321/CngZiBEN6kJ/Soon-Twitter-will-be-collecting-data-on-which Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Linda Lawrey - From what I understand, even shortened links will be wrapped.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Sean MacDhai - instead of worrying with all this, it just seems that they just need to plug in a couple more servers... or get rid of the cat that keeps unplugging the one that they have =/Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - Lauren, that's an interesting challenge. Right now shortening the URL is the simplest way to track URLs that get shared across multiple devices across the entire web. It does make sense, although it's a pain in the neck. I wonder what solutions we can come up with to get around this problem.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - For instance, I wonder if the TLDs could provide a service around this.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Lauren Weinstein is correct about the "why?".
And if you read the earlier threads about this for context (see above), you'll see the serious problems this will cause for users, app developers, and publishers alike.
While I made a bit of a joke of it above to keep the mood light, this is a big deal. And a big mistake.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
And if you read the earlier threads about this for context (see above), you'll see the serious problems this will cause for users, app developers, and publishers alike.
While I made a bit of a joke of it above to keep the mood light, this is a big deal. And a big mistake.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - DeWitt Clinton how can we resolve the problem of tracking URLs we release through our platforms though as developers? What types of standards and technologies can we come up with to fix this problem (rather than complain about it)?Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - btw, "index the web" isn't a solution for everyone. Not everyone has Google's processing power (nor does everyone want to rely on one company to do that).Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Jesse Stay Great questions.
First, I actually take a bit of issue with the notion that we should have the right to track all clicks that flow through our apps in the first place. As I discuss in the essay above, there are serious unresolved privacy-related questions about doing so. At the very least, any such solution must be opt in, both by the content creator (who doesn't necessarily want their links to be tracked) and by the user clicking on the links. But that aside ...
Second, I'm all for exploring the various rel="shortlink" proposals¹, which attempt to put that power in the hands of the site being linked to (not the networks the links pass through).
Third, and this speaks to Lauren Weinstein's point², we need to adopt escrow standards — and fast — lest we dig ourselves into a hole we can't climb out of.
Fourth, we shouldn't force people to break the HTTP spec.³ : )
Let's start a support group or something.
¹ http://www.google.com/search?q=link+rel%3Dshortlink
² http://www.google.com/buzz/lauren4321/CngZiBEN6kJ/
³ http://www.google.com/buzz/dclinton/A8deYdbMyFQ/Hrm-A-Nice-Side-Effect-Of-The-Tweet-Button-Real#1281736837638000 .Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
First, I actually take a bit of issue with the notion that we should have the right to track all clicks that flow through our apps in the first place. As I discuss in the essay above, there are serious unresolved privacy-related questions about doing so. At the very least, any such solution must be opt in, both by the content creator (who doesn't necessarily want their links to be tracked) and by the user clicking on the links. But that aside ...
Second, I'm all for exploring the various rel="shortlink" proposals¹, which attempt to put that power in the hands of the site being linked to (not the networks the links pass through).
Third, and this speaks to Lauren Weinstein's point², we need to adopt escrow standards — and fast — lest we dig ourselves into a hole we can't climb out of.
Fourth, we shouldn't force people to break the HTTP spec.³ : )
Let's start a support group or something.
¹ http://www.google.co
² http://www.google.co
³ http://www.google.co
Jesse Stay - I'm talking about the content creator here though. App developers need the ability to allow all their content creators to be able to track their links all across the web. There aren't a lot of good ways to do that right now without a short URL.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - The reason Twitter is doing this is because there's a lot of money in it, and frankly, there aren't many good technologies better than what they're doing now unfortunately. I'm not saying I'm for it, but I do understand their point of view.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Right. I get the "why". It will help make money. But that doesn't make it right. (Not that you're saying it does, but I'm just saying I agree.)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - That's why I'm saying we've got to come up with solutions to get around this problem, quickly, so companies aren't forced to do this to get around the problem. To a company, this is the right solution - companies are all about money unfortunately.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Nick Lothian - At the moment there is no incentive for anyone to share their clickthoughs with Twitter, so they have to resort to stuff like this to gather that data.
If Twitter exposed that data to the users (ie, "you clicked on this link on x date" - like a bookmarking service) then they could include a call in their API for it and clients would have reasons to use it.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
If Twitter exposed that data to the users (ie, "you clicked on this link on x date" - like a bookmarking service) then they could include a call in their API for it and clients would have reasons to use it.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Lauren Weinstein - This is a really big deal. Any time a site "captures" all links in this way the potential for mischief (or worse) is very high. I don't object to sampling of link activity via redirects on a limited basis (I've seen Google do this occasionally for very short periods in a completely reasonable manner), but full-time redirection and re-wrapping of URLs as Twitter is planning, is bad karma indeed.
What to do? Well, Twitter apparently is going to re-wrap every URL, even ones already shortened. I would hope that the various services that allow users to preview short URLs will be able to do the same with Twitter by monitoring the stream, unless volume (or Twitter policies themselves) get in the way. And it should be possible to create a browser plugin (or modify an existing one) to help deal with this.
But again, this is definitely not a trivial matter.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
What to do? Well, Twitter apparently is going to re-wrap every URL, even ones already shortened. I would hope that the various services that allow users to preview short URLs will be able to do the same with Twitter by monitoring the stream, unless volume (or Twitter policies themselves) get in the way. And it should be possible to create a browser plugin (or modify an existing one) to help deal with this.
But again, this is definitely not a trivial matter.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Nick Lothian Absolutely! I fully believe that Twitter could make this valuable enough for both users and content authors that they would want to opt in (even if I still don't like URL redirection for other reasons). If this was opt in, I wouldn't repeatedly be raising it as an issue.
(That, and they still need to address the 301 vs 302 problem. Their current design, when paired with their ToS, simply does not work, no matter how much they want it to. I remain floored that they're even considered it as an option, much less decided to proceed with it. I'm not sure what they're thinking.)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
(That, and they still need to address the 301 vs 302 problem. Their current design, when paired with their ToS, simply does not work, no matter how much they want it to. I remain floored that they're even considered it as an option, much less decided to proceed with it. I'm not sure what they're thinking.)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Lauren Weinstein - No major problems in a decent opt-in scenario, which unfortunately Twitter is not deploying.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - The best way around this, for now, is to use the short URLs, but take appropriate responsibility when displaying those URLs in the client by fully parsing them and displaying the full URL to the user. The link could technically be a short URL still, but this way the user sees the end URL. FriendFeed does this, to an extent.
That said, even this situation is not ideal, because rogue clients could always take advantage of this and trick the user. I think that's just a fact of life though and users are going to have to learn what clients they trust and which ones they don't. A trusted app system would get around this problem.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
That said, even this situation is not ideal, because rogue clients could always take advantage of this and trick the user. I think that's just a fact of life though and users are going to have to learn what clients they trust and which ones they don't. A trusted app system would get around this problem.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Who is going to submit patches to Firefox, IE, Chrome, Safari, and Opera to not cache 301 redirects (when they point to t.co)?
Someone better, else every browser will be violating the Twitter ToS.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Someone better, else every browser will be violating the Twitter ToS.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Jesse Stay No, I don't think link cloaking is the answer here. I honestly believe that clients should, whenever they see a 301 Moved Permanently, should resolve the ultimate URL and use that, throwing away original short URL entirely.
(You're still trying to figure out how apps should be able to track clicks. That's the wrong problem to optimize for, imo.)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
(You're still trying to figure out how apps should be able to track clicks. That's the wrong problem to optimize for, imo.)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - DeWitt, but that's the "why" here, and there has to be a solution for that. People will continue to do it so long as it's the best solution.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Unless users, and content publishers, say "no" to this.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Nick Lothian - @DeWitt - Do you know where that 301 vs 302 thing is documented (the twitter docs I mean - I can find the HTTP Spec ok..)?Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Nick Lothian - I read your Buzz before, but I hadn't seen the group posting.
I've also looked in the API ToS (http://dev.twitter.com/pages/api_terms ), and I've done a search http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fdev.twitter.com%2F+%22t.co%22
The group posting says: "We will be updating the TOS to require
you to check t.co and register the click".
Given that update doesn't seem to have occurred, perhaps they have changed their minds on this? Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I've also looked in the API ToS (http://dev.twitter.
The group posting says: "We will be updating the TOS to require
you to check t.co and register the click".
Given that update doesn't seem to have occurred, perhaps they have changed their minds on this?
Jesse Stay - DeWitt, as long as this is easier and makes more money, content publishers, and most users won't say no though, and that's why we've got to provide better solutions that are easier for them to implement and still get around this problem. I think everyone agrees a full URL is a better user experience.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Isaac's comment the other week suggests that they're not changing their minds.
However, if they rewrite the ToS to say, "We require that clients respect the HTTP specification for all requests to t.co," then I withdraw my objections.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
However, if they rewrite the ToS to say, "We require that clients respect the HTTP specification for all requests to t.co," then I withdraw my objections.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Gregory Smith - What ever happened to anyone taking the request for <a href=".." ping=".."> to be implemented seriously?
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2005-October/004894.html
URL redirection, for shortening or otherwise, adds huge latency to following any link. Bad for the user experience.
Not only is there the redirect server's 5 packet round trip time, DNS for the ultimate link destination can not be pre-fetched so that latency is serialized as well. Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
http://lists.whatwg.
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Not only is there the redirect server's 5 packet round trip time, DNS for the ultimate link destination can not be pre-fetched so that latency is serialized as well.
Nick Lothian - @Gregory Smith, I think ping would be a good idea, but there are non-HTML clients to consider.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - I'd vastly prefer a <a href='...' ping='...'> approach, because that allows the client (i.e., the user) to opt out if they so choose. And they should have that right to choose whether their clicks get tracked. If that existed, and clients supported it, I'd push for it at Google.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Gregory Smith - Legacy clients that don't understand it could continue to use whatever old feed format they want that contains redirected urls instead of a better data stream that has things properly annotated with the real urls + desired pings.
BTW, Ian Hickson, the <a ping=...> proposer in the whatwg link above works for Google.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
BTW, Ian Hickson, the <a ping=...> proposer in the whatwg link above works for Google.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Lauren Weinstein - Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see an obvious reason why a site that was already recording URL clicks, or (like Twitter) wrapping URLs to enable click logging, would have much incentive to include ping, given the knowledge that the ping reference would permit easy bypassing of the recording mechanism. If the theory is that sites would simply treat this as an opt-out system, my skeptical side suggests uptake would be fairly limited. And as was already noted, there are non-HTML environments where including the long URL in any form creates a mess. Also remember that Twitter is additionally trying to position their URL-shortening as an anti-malware protection system, and they'd likely argue that providing the long URLs would be "too dangerous" ...Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Lauren Weinstein I imagine that social pressure is the part of the answer.
The cynic in me believes that companies (not all companies, but most) will push the limit of what's acceptable, if it is in the best interest of their revenue streams.
The optimist in me believes that the people running these companies generally do want to do the right thing, and are sometimes secretly pleased when outside pressure gives them a good excuse not to put profits first.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
The cynic in me believes that companies (not all companies, but most) will push the limit of what's acceptable, if it is in the best interest of their revenue streams.
The optimist in me believes that the people running these companies generally do want to do the right thing, and are sometimes secretly pleased when outside pressure gives them a good excuse not to put profits first.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Lauren Weinstein - What so many people don't apparently realize is how easily -- at least in theory -- foundational aspects of the entire "free services" Internet model could be disrupted. Everything from ad visibility to DNS could be thrown into disarray via extremely asymmetric means. Debates over monetization of URL-shortening systems are only the tip of the iceberg.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Kevin Marks - Jesse, URL tracking is confounded by this as well, especially with bit.ly's practice of generating a different short URL for each user who shortens it, which makes the 'who is linking to me' problem highly annoying to solve.
DeWitt, how about a URL concordance service that resolves shortlinks from cache rapidly without having to do the full redirect chain each time? That would also be good insurance against a shortener going down.
A further API could also return all the existing shortlinks found for a given URL, so you can consolidate them?
Would be a nice thing to tack onto Google crawl, after the model of the Social Graph API.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt, how about a URL concordance service that resolves shortlinks from cache rapidly without having to do the full redirect chain each time? That would also be good insurance against a shortener going down.
A further API could also return all the existing shortlinks found for a given URL, so you can consolidate them?
Would be a nice thing to tack onto Google crawl, after the model of the Social Graph API.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - Kevin, I like that model (and agreed re: that weakness - shortening's a hack).
I think the best way for Google to approach this is to come up with a standard (or use an existing one), and then reward people that use that standard (and others that are similar and achieve the same goal). Give them better search ranking if they're being a good citizen.
Frankly, on a similar note, I'd like to see the same with RDF or similar so we can identify what types of content are in each website we visit. Sites should be rewarded for providing more information about themselves in an easily parseable format.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I think the best way for Google to approach this is to come up with a standard (or use an existing one), and then reward people that use that standard (and others that are similar and achieve the same goal). Give them better search ranking if they're being a good citizen.
Frankly, on a similar note, I'd like to see the same with RDF or similar so we can identify what types of content are in each website we visit. Sites should be rewarded for providing more information about themselves in an easily parseable format.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Matthew Phillips - I disagree that there is a privacy concern here. I absolutely think a site has a right to track clicks. Email marketing services rely on this, for example. However, I agree that Url shortening is the wrong answer.
The problem is that this is the only way for Twitter to track clicks on Seesmic, Tweetdeck, etc.
This really disappoints me and makes me want to consider a hosted solution for microblogging.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
The problem is that this is the only way for Twitter to track clicks on Seesmic, Tweetdeck, etc.
This really disappoints me and makes me want to consider a hosted solution for microblogging.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Matthew Phillips, you say, "the problem is that this is the only way for Twitter to track clicks on Seesmic, Tweetdeck, etc."
Why should Twitter be able to track clicks on Seesmic, Tweetdeck, etc? They didn't create the content, they don't own the content; it just passed through their servers when going from you to me.
Thought experiment time: Should Google have the right to rewrite all URLs in every email that passes through Gmail? Should Microsoft have the right to rewrite all URLs in every email that passes through Hotmail?
Now tell me how this is different.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Why should Twitter be able to track clicks on Seesmic, Tweetdeck, etc? They didn't create the content, they don't own the content; it just passed through their servers when going from you to me.
Thought experiment time: Should Google have the right to rewrite all URLs in every email that passes through Gmail? Should Microsoft have the right to rewrite all URLs in every email that passes through Hotmail?
Now tell me how this is different.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Land Of Awes - I believe that I have seen Gmail block links that go to known phishing sites.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Linda Lawrey - "Disgusting land grab" - Fits. http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20015397-281.html
And.. ":Another concern: a centralized link-redirector means a centralized point of failure in a service known for being frequently overloaded. "Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
And.. ":Another concern: a centralized link-redirector means a centralized point of failure in a service known for being frequently overloaded. "Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jesse Stay - DeWitt, again, this is where I think Google misunderstands this space. Gmail is not the same as Twitter. Twitter is not a private means of communication, and it is a service-oriented approach, so I would actually expect things like this to enable them to track clicks, etc. E-mail is private communication, between 2 individuals only, and is intended by nature to be entirely decoupled from the "service" aspect. Of course Gmail shouldn't interfere with that. It's Apples and Oranges (and I wish Google would stop interfering with my E-mail, personally).Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Kevin Marks - DeWitt, Google does rewrite links in Search result pages fairly often to track clicks. Mind you, those aren't crawled by others.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Kevin, I've said many, many times, sites should be allowed to track clicks that happen on their own properties. (Better with a background JS ping than a redirect for efficiency reasons, of course.) There's nothing wrong with that. I don't object in the slightest if Twitter did outbound click tracking on twitter.com, or even in their own official client apps.
It is the forcing of click tracking (with all the problems that URL redirects cause) outside Twitter that is problematic.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
It is the forcing of click tracking (with all the problems that URL redirects cause) outside Twitter that is problematic.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Kevin Marks - Yes, but do bear in mind that the majority of Twitter traffic and server load is outside their own website, precisely because of the success of their APIs and infrastructural role.
That, I imagine, is what is behind this thinking (and the terms around promoted tweets)Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
That, I imagine, is what is behind this thinking (and the terms around promoted tweets)Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Lauren Weinstein - By the way, did goo.gl ever start escrowing its links? I recommended this very early on, and was told it was under consideration, but never heard back after that. Even though we don't expect Google to vanish anytime soon, there's an important principle involved.
I don't know what percentage of Google displayed search results have redirect enabled at any given time, but my experience as a user is that (from the standpoint of any individual searcher looking at results) the number is comparatively low, and usually only active over quite brief periods of time. In any case, Google redirecting
on links that they display as part of search results is entirely different from Twitter actively altering links in user messages (including "private" direct messages?) in a way that makes it impossible to display a custom shortened link nor even to include a direct long link if one had chosen to do so.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I don't know what percentage of Google displayed search results have redirect enabled at any given time, but my experience as a user is that (from the standpoint of any individual searcher looking at results) the number is comparatively low, and usually only active over quite brief periods of time. In any case, Google redirecting
on links that they display as part of search results is entirely different from Twitter actively altering links in user messages (including "private" direct messages?) in a way that makes it impossible to display a custom shortened link nor even to include a direct long link if one had chosen to do so.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Lauren Weinstein No, I don't think we are escrowing links on goo.gl. I'd support it if we did, but in theory it's not really that much of a benefit, as goo.gl is only supposed to be used by Google itself, not by third parties (who need the protection offered by escrow).
That said, I'll followup with the team that runs that service — I'm curious, too.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
That said, I'll followup with the team that runs that service — I'm curious, too.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Matthew Phillips - DeWitt Clinton I actually agree with you 100% on this one. I was explaining why I think they're doing it, not why I agree with it.
I'm on the extreme end when it comes to user privacy. As long as a site is open about what they're doing, I think the onus is on the user to make a cost/benefit determination for themselves on whether or not they want to use a service. So naturally I think any site has right to track some, none, or all outgoing links. Javascript is not hidden code, anyone can view it and see what's happening. However, when it comes to breaking standards, such as 3xx, then I'm against Twitter or anyone else doing it (although I think it is in their right to break standards).Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I'm on the extreme end when it comes to user privacy. As long as a site is open about what they're doing, I think the onus is on the user to make a cost/benefit determination for themselves on whether or not they want to use a service. So naturally I think any site has right to track some, none, or all outgoing links. Javascript is not hidden code, anyone can view it and see what's happening. However, when it comes to breaking standards, such as 3xx, then I'm against Twitter or anyone else doing it (although I think it is in their right to break standards).Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Lauren Weinstein - Transparency to users regarding what their actions will do is key however, and transparency by definition cannot (or at least should not) be buried deep in javascript that most users will never see and wouldn't understand even if they looked. I'll probably have a bit more to say about this soon.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Like"99-cent Episodes. Own and Watch in SD and HD."
http://www.amazon.com/Video-On-Demand/b/?node=16261631
Bigger selection, too.
My money's on Amazon.
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Bigger selection, too.
My money's on Amazon.
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Bill St. Pierre - DeWitt Clinton hmmm I'm wondering how this will work with Google TV?!! Can we someday get rid of our cable/satellite bill and just purchase channels/shows that we like? Will Amazon have a Google TV App.... So many questions! Yes I agree: Price War=Win for us!Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Christopher Rizzo - You can get rid of your cable bill but expect to see your internet bill go through the roof, look at all the cable companies putting data caps on service now. Also, companies like Comcast give you a cheaper bill for bundled service rather than just purchasing internet.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Ihar Mahaniok - "We could not process your order because of geographical restrictions".Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Vision Jinx - Yup!
"We have detected that you are not located within the US. Due to licensing restrictions Amazon Video On Demand customers must be located in the United States when viewing videos online."
Par for the course for all these services :/Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
"We have detected that you are not located within the US. Due to licensing restrictions Amazon Video On Demand customers must be located in the United States when viewing videos online."
Par for the course for all these services :/Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Linda Lawrey - I think we already have this service on our Roku (along with Netflix)Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Rob Nelson - But that's an issue that's bigger than any one of these companies, and requires more governments to become involved to solve.
Nice find, DeWitt Clinton - I knew there had to be some competition for the 99¢ rentals from Apple. Again, how is cutting the price in half, and not letting me keep the product a good deal? for me, that is ;)Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Nice find, DeWitt Clinton - I knew there had to be some competition for the 99¢ rentals from Apple. Again, how is cutting the price in half, and not letting me keep the product a good deal? for me, that is ;)Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Steve Pirk - It's like the difference between putting money in a jukebox each time you want to hear a song and buying the music from a used record store... All the difference in the world...Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Alan Reinhold - Steve Pirk But now, buying used is considered stealing...if you ask the gaming industry.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Steve Pirk - Bah! Why should a company make money each time media changes hands...
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Vision Jinx - So if I sell my car (or buy a used car) is that stealing also? ;) </lame_joke>Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Alan Reinhold - I wrote a buzz post on this idea not too long ago, and I feel that it isn't stealing: http://www.google.com/buzz/wizetux/gyKfN5VJc4J/A-good-discusion-over-at-Penny-Arcade-today-about Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Matthew Phillips - I think both price points are wrong. Since Redbox, .99 cents is the price point for a movie rental. A TV episode needs to be half that, even for the convenience of not having to drive to a redbox location (which are everywhere). I'd rather pay 3 or 4 dollars for a season and not have to worry about it.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Linda Lawrey - Depending on what you are interested in, via Roku, Netflix streams both movies and tv shows, and many MANY of them are included in your monthly fee. In other words, they are FREE. I would not pay to watch a series OR a TV show.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Mark Richards - Linda, if you have cable, you are paying to watch a TV show. And many shows and channels you probably never watch. There are only a few shows anymore that are "must see" for me, so paying for them ala cart makes sense to me. I do have the patience to watch other TV shows either via DVD or streaming. For me..the only thing that is keeping me on clinging onto Dish is sports. Not content of shows. If ESPN ever broke away, and allowed a subscription plan via Roku or through my PC plan, I would be the first to stand in line.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Mark Richards - Interesting you said that Linda. I have many shows on my DVR that I do like...but just not interested in watching right now. I actually could wait for them to be streamed in a couple of years. No biggie to watch them at this moment.Sep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Linda Lawrey - What I meant was, I won't pay AGAIN. lol We have Dish (a bundle) and we also have Roku. We are never without something to watch. lolSep 2DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeNot exactly at the $99 price point, but I've been using one of these as my "Apple TV" for two years and absolutely love it: http://www.apple.com/macmini/
Patrik Johansson - Hehe yes. I don't understand the Apple TV though. Wouldn't it be easier to just plug in an HDMI cable from your Mac to your TV? Is that basically the same thing?
I'm waiting for Google TV :)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I'm waiting for Google TV :)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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DeWitt Clinton - Yup, that's exactly what we do now. No cable television or directtv — just a MacMini, an HDMI cable, a big screen, a wireless keyboard/mouse, a web browser, and netflix, hulu, etc.
Works like a charm.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Works like a charm.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Joel Webber - Ha, I've been doing the same. It's not exactly "mother-in-law friendly", but it's really awesome when you want to be able to watch any old thing you find online (including Netflix). It's also my DVD player.
I had an old-school AppleTV for a while as well, but it was never all that useful because it was too "on rails".Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I had an old-school AppleTV for a while as well, but it was never all that useful because it was too "on rails".Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Patrik Johansson - Yeah, I thought so. Well, Apple knows how to sell stuff don't they? So instead of buying that slick, tiny, beautiful Apple TV box you could just use your HDMI cable hehe.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Shawn Drape - Now wouldn't it be nice to run the Apple TV OS through something like basecamp bootcamp, so you could have the best of both worlds on your Mac? ;)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Shawn Drape - @Piaw I'm not sure that matters. The kind of person who is interested in only streaming content isn't going to have a large catalog of BR Discs anyways. With the lower price point, it's fine if they have different audiences.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Vision Jinx - Seems that maybe more and more TVs will just have it built in like mine does (for netflix) http://www.sharp.ca/products/index.asp?cat=30&id=830
Between my TV and my Digital PVR box from my ISP I already have access to a lot of content. Think this is where things are going? Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Keith Grant - I've got an old dell laptop plugged into my TV. We use it for Hulu and Netflix. I would love to get away from needing a mouse and keyboard in the living room, but so far there just aren't any good out-of-the-box solutions. Looks like the new AppleTV is close, but why pay for what you can get on Hulu for free?
Hoping Google TV and/or the Boxee box prove to be a bit closer to the solution I'm looking for.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Hoping Google TV and/or the Boxee box prove to be a bit closer to the solution I'm looking for.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Bud Gibson - The key here is $99, and it just works. They're very good at hitting well-defined niches.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Vision Jinx - Piaw Na Hmmm, I am not entirely sure. I guess one plus for me is part of my ISP package for the digital TV was a 15Mb Internet connection (my PVR is 3 streams alone - 3 programs can be recording at once). I have not actually tried the netflix on it yet as last I heard it was not available in Canada yet but they are apparently working hard to get it to us asap (according to Sharp) :) Of course I didn't find that out until after I bought it ;) So many of those things are not available here, netflix, hulu etc etc etc so until they decide us Canadians are worthy enough I have little choice but to stick to the near unlimited selection in my Digital TV package (plus I have a netbook hooked up to it as well). But for people in the USA I guess this would be pretty cool to have all that built in and available via your TV. :)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Brian Cronmiller - I would get a few Mac Mini's for TV use if they had bluray.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Piaw Na — I almost bought a PS3 just for bluray, but I got stymied looking at all the various SKUs in Fry's (there were no fewer than 5 PS3 on the shelf), and realized I needed to do some homework first. But yes, if one is in the market for a bluray player, the PS3 is a no brainer. It's like the video game system is thrown in for free.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Patrick Aljord - Don't forget that youtube should offer similar rental soon :)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Brian Cronmiller - Piaw Na I did buy a PS3 for bluray and netflix and I also sneak in some gaming here and there. The appeal of a mac mini would be hulu and whatever is next that would be easier to use on a computer than a game system os.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Piaw Na - Dewitt: No need to look at SKUs, just buy whatever the special is when Amazon has a sale. That's what I did. If you're impatient, it looks like the optimum price/performance bundle right now is the $299 160GB bundle: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZJ4T9C?ie=UTF8&tag=piasblo-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002ZJ4T9C
I believe that the only difference really is in the capacity of the HDD, which is easy to swap out if you need more storage in the future. In reality, even the 120GB HDD that I have is plenty.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I believe that the only difference really is in the capacity of the HDD, which is easy to swap out if you need more storage in the future. In reality, even the 120GB HDD that I have is plenty.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
T.A. Henry - I had a 60GB PS3 with upgraded HD to 320 two years ago. It's a great gaming machine, but the fans were way to loud for entertainment purposes. Bluray was just getting started back then and my interest in console games died. So I'm totally in the market for a tv media device, but the 99 cent for "rent" is totally BS. Especially, when Amazon today is selling you the actual possession of said material for 99c as well. Plus it's not iOS, which means no apps. It seems the continuity of apple is waning.
I'm gonna call it, GoogleTV is gonna kick AppleTV's ass. Sidenote/Question: I have over $200 in Playstation Network games for PS3, how can you resell these? Can't find the answer anywhere.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I'm gonna call it, GoogleTV is gonna kick AppleTV's ass. Sidenote/Question: I have over $200 in Playstation Network games for PS3, how can you resell these? Can't find the answer anywhere.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeThat's odd.
On August 10th I noticed that I had posted 1,776 tweets.
http://www.google.com/buzz/dclinton/JJCsskRq1eV/
Today it says that I've posted 1,768 tweets, but I don't recall having deleted any.
Where'd the missing 8 tweets go?
I bet they were good ones, too.
On August 10th I noticed that I had posted 1,776 tweets.
http://www
Today it says that I've posted 1,768 tweets, but I don't recall having deleted any.
Where'd the missing 8 tweets go?
I bet they were good ones, too.
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Shaine Mata - Probably just went for coffee. They'll come back.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Randy Coppinger - Social networking sites never have problems like that.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Adam S. - Ask the geniuses at @Google Buzz Team I'm sure they can fix it...in 39 or so days LOLAug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @Adam S. You do know where I work and what I do, right? : )Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Christopher Rizzo - When is Buzz going to get these stats added to our profiles? I would love to see comments, replies, post, post deleted, etc..Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Kathi [d/b/a fuzzyscorpio] - I think losing only 8 is a badge of your specialness ;). Most Twitizens who get bitten by that bug see their count drop very sharply, by a third or half.
Or else, maybe this is the mark of a new Buzzmeister bug.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Or else, maybe this is the mark of a new Buzzmeister bug.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Randy Coppinger - Q: What's the difference between a feature and a bug?
A: It's a feature if they include it in the documentation.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
A: It's a feature if they include it in the documentation.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @Chris Regarding for surfacing more detailed stats for Buzz, summoning @Josh Wills, our resident expert.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Josh Wills - @Chris you can always just ask me personally. ;)
(Almost certain that I will immediately regret saying that.)Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
(Almost certain that I will immediately regret saying that.)Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Christopher Rizzo - LOL, well is this something we can look forward to seeing?Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Vision Jinx - @Josh Wills or @DeWitt Clinton Is Buzz ever planning on addressing the spastic jumpiness of using Buzz? It drives me absolutely bonkers every time I try to use Buzz. (Sorry if this is off topic, we can always chat off line about it :D)Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Josh Wills - @Chris it's not on anyone's plate that I'm aware of right now. There's always lots to do. :)Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Gord Wait - @Vision Jinx Ironic name for a person complaining about the visual jumpyness of the Buzz UI :)
I don't like the jump either for the record..Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I don't like the jump either for the record..Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
James Wheeler - @Randy Coppinger it is joke that I have heard many times referring to a problem with software. They user says it works one way which is not correct. Then the tech or the engineer or programming comes back to say that isn't a bug that is the way it is supposed to work. Since it is working correctly it is a feature not a bug.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Linda Lawrey - "Where'd the missing 8 tweets go? "
Twitter uses random tweets for chum. It's how they catch the Fail Whale. You drew the short stick this time. lolAug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Twitter uses random tweets for chum. It's how they catch the Fail Whale. You drew the short stick this time. lolAug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Secret Diary - I recommend an investigation is conducted to find those missing 8 tweets :)Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeSingle-click upgrading my netbook from Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala to 10.04 Lucid Lynx. Almost too easy.
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DeWitt Clinton - It's a shame that Ubuntu never found a marketing channel in the mainstream. It's ready for humans.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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David Nelson - Ubuntu is great, been using it at work. Would recommend it.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
axel koster - Linux in general is great, but especially Ubuntu.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
James Salsman - How long did the upgrade take after the single click?Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @James Salsman Not quite sure — I left it unattended, so most of the time is being spent downloading it over our slow DSL line. I started the process at 9:54, so it's been running for 1h 46m, with about 5m left to go before the download finishes.
The install should go quickly, doubly so because the netbook has an SSD in it — I'll post again when it is done.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
The install should go quickly, doubly so because the netbook has an SSD in it — I'll post again when it is done.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Daniel Bos - I've been using Ubuntu for years now (since 6.06) and got my entire R&D department to migrate shortly after. Haven't been able to convert other departments though, since they're "used to windows". Really a shame, since I think the leaning curve for switching to Ubuntu isn't much different than between Windows versions, and learning OpenOffice is far easier than the new Microsoft Office...Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @James Salsman Remember what I said about it not taking long because of the SSD? I take that back. Estimated time: 3 hours 43 minutes remaining.
I won't be staying up to see it finish tonight.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I won't be staying up to see it finish tonight.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Stefan Sarzio - Wow, that's long. The server upgrades I've done yesterday were much faster. But of course there's no GUI to be updated for those. :-)
Downloading was quite fast itself for the 2+ machine - thanks to apt-cacher.
10.04 on my notebook is quite ok - but I still long for a Android tablet with a good file-sync client and NoMachine support.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Downloading was quite fast itself for the 2+ machine - thanks to apt-cacher.
10.04 on my notebook is quite ok - but I still long for a Android tablet with a good file-sync client and NoMachine support.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jannik Lindquist - Here in Denmark a public library has been running an interesting little experiment lately. One of the public computers have been running Ubuntu 10.04 for a while - but with a Windows XP-skin and a shortcut to Chrome on the deskop. Apparently, until now no one has noticed that they weren't using Windows.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Santiago Gala - I'm seing a couple of very annoying bugs in 10.04, not in 9.10:
- My graphic card crashes due to drm out of memory from time to time (i915)
- Rhythmbox, which I use a lot to DJ tango around, crashes without explanation. Fortunately it is UI related, about longish mouse button presses, so I'm careful while DJing...Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
- My graphic card crashes due to drm out of memory from time to time (i915)
- Rhythmbox, which I use a lot to DJ tango around, crashes without explanation. Fortunately it is UI related, about longish mouse button presses, so I'm careful while DJing...Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Alex Covic - Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Ub... - it's Debian with a (well-maintained) skin, people! apt-get update is now a Ubuntu-feature? OpenSUSE (former SUSE) did the one-click upgrade FOR YEARS via YAST etc ... ah, must stop myself. I'm on a low-sugar-caffeine ride. Sorry, folksSep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Rob Nelson - Did it today on mine, and it seems to have gone off without a hitch.
Mark this as one of the very few times that this has ever happened in some 20yrs of using Linux. Distro maintainers rarely pull this off.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Matthew Phillips - Ubuntu needs to change its color scheme. First thing most people do after an install is change the theme. Fedora, on the other hand, is beautiful.Sep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeWeb developers, get ready for the Chrome Web Store.
Today we launched the developer preview of the Chrome Web Store. From the introductory blog post:
http://blog.chromium.org/2010/08/get-your-apps-ready-for-chrome-web.html
"Since our announcement of the Chrome Web Store at Google I/O, our team has been hard at work preparing for our launch later this year. Today we’re making the first step...Expand this post »
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Nick Lothian - Yeah, I know. But Android is out 2 years now, and I still can't write paid apps for it.. You know only 9 countries have been enabled for selling apps?Aug 19DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Hugh Isaacs II - "A packaged app is a web app that's bundled into a .crx file and can use Google Chrome Extension features."
Web app and extension hybrid = WIN!Aug 19DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Bud Gibson - I'd be interested to hear how this impacts mobile. To me that would be the big win. Maybe, it's all via chrome os.Aug 19DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Joel Webber - @nick: yeah, I'll admit that does kind of suck. I can't claim to have any inside knowledge on this particular problem, but I do know that payment systems and the regulations around them can be quite a bear. But I certainly hope they get this straightened out asap. On the receiving end, I also hope the BBC finds a way to get their shows to me as well :p Aug 19DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Andrex ★ - I'm very very intrigued. And also happy that I have a previous extension so I don't have to pay $5. :)
I can't wait to try Chrome OS and the Web Store, giving myself over to the cloud completely, even if it only works out for a short while. Should be a fun ride!Aug 20DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Matthew Phillips - I like the idea of installed non-hosted web apps. Consider this idea: turning books into interactive web apps that are installed. Don't have to worry about hosting costs. Plus html5 has lots of great new CSS transitions.Aug 20DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Nick Lothian - Obviously my complaining worked, because now (only 10 days later..) I can write paid apps for Android :) http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=150324
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@trench hcnert@ - <blink>Arne Roomann-Kurrik</blink>
(This is re: the highest voted comment on the youtube vid - "He never blinks! Freaks me out a little.")
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(This is re: the highest voted comment on the youtube vid - "He never blinks! Freaks me out a little.")
O_O
axel koster - yeahhh
Boing Bumm Tschak. Boing Bumm Tschak. Bumm Boing.
Tada G O O G L E ! ! !Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Boing Bumm Tschak. Boing Bumm Tschak. Bumm Boing.
Tada G O O G L E ! ! !Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Nick Lothian - :( Turns out the enabling of Australian & Canadian sellers in the documentation was a mistake and we still can't sell. Sorry for the bumpSep 1DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeDo want.
http://galaxytab.samsungmobile.com/
More here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/samsung-galaxy-tab-p1000-gets-wild-with-android-2-2/
Via Daring Fireball. (The irony is indeed delicious, thanks for asking.)
http://galax
More here:
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Via Daring Fireball. (The irony is indeed delicious, thanks for asking.)
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DeWitt Clinton - Can't wait for these rumored Android tablets to hit the streets. I haven't picked out exactly which one I'll get, but I'm looking forward to having many choices.Aug 24DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Steve Pirk - @Nate Taylor showed me a Samsung tablet an hour or so ago...
I hope Jobs has a bad case of heartburn right about now... lolAug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Steve Pirk - We need to hook up with some of our Chinese contacts and have them send us one or two...Aug 24DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Nick Lothian - I have a Galaxy S (phone), and I have to say I'm very impressed with what a good job Samsung has done. It's still on Android 2.1 (2.2 is scheduled to be released in September), but it' still very fast, and there is a nice one-click root program for it if you want that.Aug 24DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Stephan Kristyn - CPU Power and a great Display is not everything. In fact CPU Power is nothing. See slow HD2 rendering performance with WM 6.5. Rather UX Smoothness, Perfection in Hardware, Audio Quality, all these things, that is what makes a good Touchphone together with great Software.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Colin Wernham - @Stephan Kristyn: Agree. is Samsung Galaxy S UI acceptable? My next phone will be a Nexus One. For the tablet the UI overlay is not so important as on a phone.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Ryo ★ - Stephan... right. and it's all great on the Galaxy 9000. Plus some more makes a good smartphone: Choice, openness and freedom of using and developing any piece of software to give specific solutions to everyone.
Colin TouchWiz looks good. You may try it. I like the vanilla UI (stock android) better, but that's no reason for me to say no on the Galaxy. It's more or less just a look. You can change this to anything you want with aHome, Panda or other themeable homescreen replacements.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Colin TouchWiz looks good. You may try it. I like the vanilla UI (stock android) better, but that's no reason for me to say no on the Galaxy. It's more or less just a look. You can change this to anything you want with aHome, Panda or other themeable homescreen replacements.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Stephan Kristyn - Don't get me wrong, from what I've seen UI on Galaxy S is outstanding since it is Android 2.1. But still I wouldn't choose Android for smooth transitions, intelligent smooth scrolling, or jerkfree pinch and zoom. I really would have gone with an HTC Desire (Samsung build quality and brand image is not my thing), but then again, I want to listen in with my Sennheisers and I would not ever dare to plug those in anything but a dedicated music player like Cowon, iriver and the brand which shall not be named. The Samsung, and for me the Desire are still tempting and they are the first great touch phones next to the one who should not be named. If you want extrem configurability for a reasonable price and certain single features like a great Display these outstanding devices are right for you. If you would have ever experienced the perfection of the proprietery Soft- and Hardware of the brand that shall not be named you wouldn't have asked anyway.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Siegfried Hirsch - the date for the presentation on 2nd of September in Berlin points to a special IFA event for the press in Berlin.
looking forward to get more information on this beauty.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Ryo ★ - @Stephan Got that. I respect your opinion.
For me it's quite the opposite. I can ONLY choose Android for the things you mention and for many many other things. It's the best mobile OS by far out there right now. Lets see what the reanimated webOS will bring in the future. But now, there is no alternative to Android for me. And I worked with almost any mobile OS. But that's just my opinion.
Some will see it much different. That's a good thing, because it leads to the thing I mentioned that is very important, too: Choice!Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
For me it's quite the opposite. I can ONLY choose Android for the things you mention and for many many other things. It's the best mobile OS by far out there right now. Lets see what the reanimated webOS will bring in the future. But now, there is no alternative to Android for me. And I worked with almost any mobile OS. But that's just my opinion.
Some will see it much different. That's a good thing, because it leads to the thing I mentioned that is very important, too: Choice!Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jannik Lindquist - I've just got my Galaxy S today - and I am (so far) highly impressed. Really great attention to detail. I might very well get a Samsung tablet as my next "netbook".Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Vladimir Kelman - @DeWitt Clinton - Galaxy Tab looks beautifully... according to specs. But to me there is still one special Android tablet I'm waiting for: Notion Inc Adam http://www.notionink.in/ A thing which makes it different from any other coming tablet is Pixel Qi screen http://www.pixelqi.com/
(I'm still supporting Non-phone Android Devices Wave at http://goo.gl/M6kc)Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Elias Mårtenson - @DeWitt Clinton, did you notice that Gruber has now publicly admitted that the ipad no longer sells well? He recently posted that it's no longer sold out.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Bud Gibson - This has somehow popped back into my stream, shorn of comments.
Having experienced iPad, Evo, and Droid x, where I stand now is Droid x plus a laptop. The problem with tablet pictured is that it's not quite small enough to conveniently play the phone-go-anywhere role, and it's not quite powerful enough to fulfill the laptop role.
I do suspect that devices like this will co-evolve with the ecosystem to the point where I won't need a laptop anymore. At which point, I will again be in the market.
Also, devices like the one pictured can't come with some required contract to a phone company. I've had my fill of that.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Having experienced iPad, Evo, and Droid x, where I stand now is Droid x plus a laptop. The problem with tablet pictured is that it's not quite small enough to conveniently play the phone-go-anywhere role, and it's not quite powerful enough to fulfill the laptop role.
I do suspect that devices like this will co-evolve with the ecosystem to the point where I won't need a laptop anymore. At which point, I will again be in the market.
Also, devices like the one pictured can't come with some required contract to a phone company. I've had my fill of that.Aug 31DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeThese two behind the scenes videos of the Beatles are making me happy tonight: The Beatles: Get Back Rehearsal and Beatles - Hey Jude - Rehearsal - 1968 (UPGRADE) take 9, in STEREO
DeWitt Clinton - Via Bobby Owsinski's Big Picture blog: http://bobbyowsinski.blogspot.com/ Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeJust reconnected a couple of services to Buzz, including del.icio.us, the email feeder, and Google Talk status messages. Seeing if this works as expected.
DeWitt Clinton - Hmm, it double-posted, but otherwise okay.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Thomas Morffew - Is this to do with the Leo Laporte Digg thing?Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Christopher Rizzo - Everything I have connected to my Buzz works perfectly! I do have the double post problem sometimes though!Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - An interesting experiment would be to use an XMPP-based bridge via gtalk to create a short-form, text-based, micro-blogging service.
In fact, I wonder how long it would take to wire up a Twitter-alike just using Google App Engine¹ and generic XMPP clients.
Though I suppose that's Jaiku, but Jaiku has even more features than I'm thinking here. Just text updates, subscription, fanout, and delivery.
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In fact, I wonder how long it would take to wire up a Twitter-alike just using Google App Engine¹ and generic XMPP clients.
Though I suppose that's Jaiku, but Jaiku has even more features than I'm thinking here. Just text updates, subscription, fanout, and delivery.
¹ http://code.google.c
Jeremy Clark - The only bummer about importing Delicious bookmarks into Buzz is that the link is stored in the "del.icio.us" text next to your name on the post. This seems unintuitive to me as you spend some time mousing around looking for the actual link. I believe Digg suffers from the same problem.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @Jeremy Clark Hmm, that's weird.
On the stand-alone Buzz page, the link to the bookmarked page is prominent and clickable:
http://www.google.com/buzz/dclinton/GtrsUDNFMPL/100types
But in the gmail view, it's not linked. I'll investigate why there is a discrepancy.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
On the stand-alone Buzz page, the link to the bookmarked page is prominent and clickable:
http://
But in the gmail view, it's not linked. I'll investigate why there is a discrepancy.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jeremy Clark - @DeWitt Clinton That'd be awesome. I switched to Google Reader for my link sharing, but I'd love to start importing my Digg/Reddit votes. :-)Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @Josh Wills may be able to add insight as to the formatting inside Gmail.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Adewale Oshineye - The problem with delicious links not being sufficiently highlighted is a known bug: http://code.google.com/p/google-buzz-api/issues/detail?id=28 Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Josh Wills - So the link is there, it's just incorrectly set with the text for the "del.icio.us" link. How odd, I'll look at it.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @Adewale Oshineye Thanks for spotting that — starred.
@Josh Wills Yup, we just need to link it inside Gmail the same way we do on the profiles page.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
@Josh Wills Yup, we just need to link it inside Gmail the same way we do on the profiles page.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Josh Wills - They must just be using slightly different rendering templates- should be easy enough to sort out.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Frank Spychalski - Can I unlike this? I enjoy reading your buzzes but 5 links in ~10minutes is not useful. As long as we don't have to option to filter items, connecting Reader Shared Items/del.icio.us/... is IMHO a bad idea in buzz... Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - @Frank Spychalski Yes, you can definitely "unlike" this. : )
I came to the same conclusion about the del.icio.us shares -> Buzz (though for different reasons). I'm keeping the Google Talk status for now, though.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
I came to the same conclusion about the del.icio.us shares -> Buzz (though for different reasons). I'm keeping the Google Talk status for now, though.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Chris Myles - FYI this issue also affects all connected sites and has been a confusion to new users since launch.. glad someone finally noticed.
Dewitt, even though you removed your del.icio.us account which unlinks them from your profile, those posts still appear via search (https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#buzz/search/author%3Adewitt%2Bclinton) .. I'm not sure if you got a warning or not but the effects of removing a connected site are completely counter-intuitive (http://www.google.com/buzz/115067876375080098238/ePySvrL9sEj/Major-Buzz-Bug-Disconnecting-a-connected-site or http://code.google.com/p/google-buzz-api/issues/detail?id=92) .. just saying (again).Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Dewitt, even though you removed your del.icio.us account which unlinks them from your profile, those posts still appear via search (https://mail.google
Louis Gray - @DeWitt Clinton from some of the less active Buzzers, the links I share on Google Reader can seem overwhelming, so I am reticent to add Delicious as well. That said, if I treat this as a true aggregator, I can see that happening. Curious to see the way it is laid out.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Chris Myles - I used to use the search API to filter a users specific content (using from and source parameters) but now it appears that the from feature requires authentication.. even for public only feeds (?!?). When did that change?
user and source based filters within Buzz (like hide in FF) would greatly help users control the noise levels of the people they follow.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
user and source based filters within Buzz (like hide in FF) would greatly help users control the noise levels of the people they follow.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jeremy Clark - It's already possible to mute individual connected sites for people you follow. Just click on the user's name and click "mute" next to the site you don't want to get Buzz updates for. I usually do this by default for anyone who shares their links from Google Reader since I use it heavily and don't want to read the posts/comments twice. :-)Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Chris Myles - Jeremy, in which dialog do I click the users name to do this? I know I can mute individual posts but I didn't know about filtering by connected site. Is this new?Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Chris Myles - Kevin, Thanks.. is there any method for controlling the number of comments/likes before posts appear or is it just brute force user/source based?Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jeremy Clark - Hmm, disregard what I said. Seems like they are still working on this. http://goo.gl/szDdAug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Hey all, thanks for the comments — very useful/insightful.
I'm going to take some time to write up my thoughts about how we're dealing with aggregation / syndication / re-syndication.
Basically, I don't think we've nailed it yet, and I know some things can be improved.
I'll keep you all posted on what we come up with, then try to bounce it off of everyone here for review.
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I'm going to take some time to write up my thoughts about how we're dealing with aggregation / syndication / re-syndication.
Bas
I'll keep you all posted on what we come up with, then try to bounce it off of everyone here for review.
Thanks!
Christopher Johnston - Thanks for all the work on how to add del.icio.us to Buzz. Took me a while to figure it out but now I've got it added and love it.Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeQuite a thread started by Matt Cutts asking about organizing a music library: http://www.google.com/buzz/109412257237874861202/dHr9bZKHESg/
DeWitt Clinton - Impressed by the comments over there.
Buzz users are the best.
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Buzz users are the best.
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LikeI stopped by my desk a minute ago and just look what was waiting for me:
HTML5: Up and Running
By Mark Pilgrim
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596806033
And the beautiful companion site:
http://diveintohtml5.org/
If you like @Mark Pilgrim's work as much as I do (and let's face it, you do), and you want to support the insanely awesome model that @O'Reilly Media and Mark are exploring here, where...Expand this post »
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Peter Keane - thanks -- I didn't realize it was already out. And now it's on it's way to me... :-).Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Daniel Renfer - I just discovered that site the other day when I was looking for HTML5 resources. I just might have to buy this book.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Robert Hancock - I just received it today and got about half way through. Extremely clear and well written. It will save me a lot of time. Congrats to Mark.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Bud Gibson - It was on an O'Reilly ebook deal of the day for $10 last week. If you go to the feed, you can get the code which still works:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/oreilly/ebookdealoftheday
BTW, I think @DeWitt Clinton is making a good point about paying people for their effort. My reason for posting this link is that there are a lot of cash constrained people. Call it contributing according to your means.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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BTW, I think @DeWitt Clinton is making a good point about paying people for their effort. My reason for posting this link is that there are a lot of cash constrained people. Call it contributing according to your means.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Christopher Prucha - I just purchased the eBook. The coupon code from the feed that Bud posted still works great.Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Gabriel Harrison - I bought the book at full price and I don't feel put out, in fact I feel great about it. Great job!!Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Christopher Jackson - http://www.downeu.com/ebook/137750-html5-up-and-running.html Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Brian Wisti - For what it's worth, Mark Pilgrim has said in the past that he doesn't write for the money. I buy his books just to annoy him.
Hey ... wait a minute ... reverse psychology?Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Hey ... wait a minute ... reverse psychology?Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Robert Schwentker - I've recommended this book to several technology training centers. Mark's book site is fun filled - and he makes HTML5 easy to grasp. A definite thumbs up !Aug 25DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
David Schmidt - I had it on my list a while already, just ordered it now. Yay.Aug 26DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Jeremy Selier - Thanks for the reminder DeWitt, I had planned to buy it since a long time but never did it.
Fixed now.Aug 26DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikeDid you know that Google Calendar supports public free/busy sharing? Incredibly useful in avoiding playing scheduling-tag via email with people that work other places.
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DeWitt Clinton - Go to Google Calendar → Calendar Settings → Calendars and look under My Calendars for the one you want to share.
Next click Share this Calendar under the Sharing column.
Check Share this calendar with others and Make this calendar public and set it to "See only free/busy (hide details)".
Next send them a link to your public free/busy data. I use this URL:
https://www.google.com/calendar/b/0/embed?mode=WEEK&src={user@domain.com}
You can also share just to specific individuals by adding their email address under Share with specific people and setting the visibility as desired (see full calendar, make changes, free/busy only, etc).
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Next click Share this Calendar under the Sharing column.
Check Share this calendar with others and Make this calendar public and set it to "See only free/busy (hide details)".
Next send them a link to your public free/busy data. I use this URL:
https://www.g
You can also share just to specific individuals by adding their email address under Share with specific people and setting the visibility as desired (see full calendar, make changes, free/busy only, etc).
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Isaac Hepworth - Nice! Ironically for a company with such a great online calendar product, scheduling meetings with Googlers as an outsider is always a ridiculous email thread with proposals and counter-proposals and counter-counter-proposals. Googlers should showcase this feature by having it switched on for all users at the site level ;-) Aug 30DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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LikePhotography question — why doesn't Nikon make a faster 35mm AF? Not that the f/2 is slow, but they sport a (much more expensive) non-AF f/1.4, and the 50mm f/1.4 AF is in just about everyone's bag, so there must be a market for fast primes.
DeWitt Clinton - I pulled the trigger anyway, which now completes my collection of the affordable Nikon standard/wide primes. I'm really looking forward to walking around with this one, which I expect will all but replace the 50mm for me, even without the extra oomph of the f/1.4.Aug 27DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
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Eric Souza - I assume you're not looking for DX lenses, otherwise there's the 35mm 1.8 AF. Not that it would be much faster.Aug 27DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
DeWitt Clinton - Right, full frame. I should have clarified that.Aug 27DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam
Julius Heilman - Love my 5DmkII with 35mm F1.4L. The 85mm F1.2L is a beauty as well ... so much glass (drool).Aug 27DeleteUndo deleteReport spamNot spam






